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the food should be better discussed. More objective. I can't do it, because in the one year I was there, I tasted things so horrible, I was glad to go to macdonalds or places that sell "western food" (borshch is great though!)

Max: I've added couple of food items which could be of interest for westeners. Did anyone of you liked Vareniki with sour cream?

I was born in Kiev and lived there for 25 years and think that language situation is not described precisely. I'm Ukrainian, but I consider Russian to be my native language. There is absolutely no any problem if you'll try to speak in Russian to someone on a street for directions, etc. There might be some political tension from time to time between Russia and Ukraine but Russian language is still used by more than 50% of Kiev's population. Even in Ukrainian-speaking Western Ukraine (Lviv) attitude toward Russian language has improved significantly since early 90s.

University of Bribes[edit]

The author wrote "The red Shevchenko university is famous in whole Ukraine. It's also famous for asking for bribes for everything." I tried to find an unbiased source to confirm this and I have yet to find anything that says this is a corrupt university. Check out the Wikipedia article. I'm going to delete the bribe info for now. We should only add this back in if we can find an unbiased resource that confirms this allegation. Sapphire 19:05, 4 Jan 2006 (EST)

I hadn't noticed this, and it might also be a translation issue ("fees"? "donations"?). Thanks for cleaning it up. --Evan 18:44, 4 Jan 2006 (EST)
No problem. I've been looking to attend school in East Europe and this would have greatly affected my decision if I'd completely believed it. Sapphire 19:05, 4 Jan 2006 (EST)
By accident I found a source to back up the allegation that Ukrainian colleges take bribes, however, no one school was mentioned. I found this information on the Soros Foundation's website. The Soros Foundation was founded by Geroge Soros, the American-Hungarian or rather Hungarian-American (He was a Hungarian before he was American). Soros is extermely active in East Europe and third world nations. His group promotes democracy and prosperous economies in the regions it operates.


Removed the contact "information," Wikitravel is a travel information site, not an international dating site. Brian Hnatiak

Article status[edit]

I have just changed this article from stub to usable status. On a second thought, I think the eat and sleep entries need more details and their format should comply with our manual of style. I'm changing the status again now, to Outline, in hope that other contributors will feel compelled to add more details to the article. -- Rmx 13:29, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)

Hiya. I think you could argue for either usable or stub, but isn't outline for when there's just, well, an outline? I thought it was outline->stub->usable->guide->star... I'm gonna go RTFM now... 13:58, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)
Thanks, but according to Wikitravel:Article_status, stub is "level 1" (no template) whereas an outline has a template and some incomplete info. -- Rmx 14:47, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)

Article name[edit]

Per our Wikitravel:article naming conventions, we use the most common English name for a destination. I don't think "Kyiv" has passed up "Kiev" in the English language for this city. Note we explicitly don't use the official or local name; see Wikitravel:Why Wikitravel doesn't use official names. I've reverted the changes to this article that changed "Kiev" to "Kyiv"; please discuss here before changing back. --Evan 10:12, 1 December 2006 (EST)

I just reverted again; please discuss here before changing it back. --Evan 20:17, 3 December 2006 (EST)
Don't just change replace all occurrences of Kyiv into Kiev, a lot of those are English language local names (like you'll get "Kyivstar" not "Kievstar" on your phone and linking to you get some russian spam site, the map book will have "Kyiv Tour Guide" written on it, the university refers to itself as the "National University Kyiv-Mohyla Academy" and so on.
Yes, I tried to recover all the proper names that included Kyiv. Let me know if you see any more. --Evan 20:30, 3 December 2006 (EST)

Hi sorry, am only new to Wikipedia editing. Just to let you know, 90 per cent of english spelling referring to the city name here in town is Kyiv. And the US government has recently agreed to only use 'Kyiv' when referring to the city ( ). Usage may increase in short time. -- BJT, 26 December 2006, 15:39pm

"Kyiv" is still a long way from becoming more common than "Kiev". -- Andrew H. (Sapphire) 08:55, 26 December 2006 (EST)

Google is not the arrguement See Ukriane vs the Ukraine

Is it time to revisit this? Kyiv seems to be the only spelling used in the country, is quite usable outside the country, and the traveller isn't going to win any friends in the city using the Russian spelling? --inas 19:33, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
"the traveller isn't going to win any friends in the city using the Russian spelling"... neither using the Ukranian spelling-) The city (and, effectively, the whole country) is truly bilingual. Personally, I don't see any new reasons that would justify the name change. I have no objections to "Kyiv" either, but it is easier to keep things as they are. For example, most airlines still fly to "Kiev", and the airport writes itself as "Boryspil International Airport. Kiev, Ukraine" [1]. Atsirlin 04:29, 21 October 2011 (EDT)
The criteria for Wikitravel:Naming conventions still haven't changed, and as far as I know, Kiev is still the most commonly used name in the English language. --globe-trotter 04:26, 21 October 2011 (EDT)
Possibly. In planning my trip though there, I found that a majority of the English language sites I have been using for planning use the Kyiv spelling. I had a look at the airport website, and it certainly uses both. Kyiv slightly more than Kiev though. Anyway, lets leave it a couple more years and see what happens. --inas 17:41, 8 November 2011 (EST)


I deleted the Tours section that links to a website that organises stag parties (and escorts) as I didn't think it adhered to the external links guidelines. Wikitravel isn't a dating agency. - user BJT, 26 December 2006

Thank you. -- Andrew H. (Sapphire) 08:55, 26 December 2006 (EST)


-It is polite to chat loudly (e.g., in Metro) and wave one's hands.-.... this was listed... I can't imagine it is polite to chat loudly and wave on'es hands... I do it all the time though

Bring toilet paper...[edit]

The article suggests that you should bring a flash light and toilet paper with you to avoid "surprises". Although I would agree that Kiev and Ukraine in general is still well behind many Western European countries, toilet paper is not an issue and has not been since the end of the Soviet times. This comment could mislead readers as to how developed Kiev trully is. I suggest to remove it.

I agree that toilet paper may not be quite needed, but flashlight is a good idea. I never thought of it myself until I went a year ago with a friend. He read that you should bring a flashlight, and did so. While the apartment we rented was great, the building itself (the staircase) had absolutely no light, and was at best quite dim even during a sunny day. :) Mno 05:49, 9 April 2008 (EDT)

TIU Hostels[edit]

Hello, for some reason the text about TIU hostels was removed from the Sleep / Budget section. Does it violate some Wikitravel rules or is it just someone's bad joke? I have put it back - please advise if there is something wrong with it, as I am pretty new here and may have made some mistakes inadvertently. Thanks! - Artyom

Dear community, the TIU hostels info has been removed again for no reason and without any explanation - apparently by the same person that was editing the Kiev Lodging Hostel information block, as can be clearly seen from the user contributions history. In our opinion such behavior is quite unethical and childish, if that was done by the members of the Kiev Lodging Hostel team. Please advise. Thanks! - (TIU Hostels Team, March 12, 2010)

This should certainly be looked at seriously. The latest deletion was by anon user with IP, and from the pattern, that does look like a competitor, Kiev Lodging Hostel. Messing with competitor listings is viewed very dimly here.--Burmesedays 09:20, 12 March 2010 (EST)
Thanks for your attention to the problem! Please note also the actions of tampering the TIU hostels website URL and contact email (versions 1414045, 1414073 and 1414112). The URL was changed to the one leading to a page with some ungrounded and outrageous libel (there is no real proof presented to prove any of the points in that text). And this clearly seems to be the work of the Kiev Lodging Hostel team, as the very same text can be found on their Facebook Fan Page (screenshot in case it will be later removed) and their other partner website. Such competition tactics is simply ridiculous and unacceptable. Hope for your understanding. Thanks! -- TIU Hostels Team, March 24, 2010

Mr. Claus Hansen, why did you revert the revision 1467444 and replace the TIU Hostels section content with the incorrect information? The addresses and phone numbers are non-existent, the description is incorrect too - these hostels do not belong to one person, they are not just a one-bedroom apartments, check them out on the or booking engine websites and see also the customer reviews left by the people that did actually stayed in those hostels. -- TIU Hostels Team, June 1, 2010


All users please watch this article carefully for dodgy edits from anon users who I think are rival hostel owners changing competitor entries.--Burmesedays 02:56, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

Seems so. I have removed the Kiev Lodging Hostel altogether, as it seems they are engaging in shady business practices here. --Peter Talk 12:52, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
Dear Community, the Kiev Lodging Hostel has removed the TIU Hostels entry entirely and placed their info back instead (changes done on 15th of June, 2010). Please respond. Thanks! - TIU Hostels Team, 16 June 2010


Ryan: Why did you remove section regarding This web site lists apartments for short term rental in Kiev and other ukrainian cities. It could be helpful for travelers to find apartments descriptions and phone numbers of its owners in one place. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Garyachy (talkcontribs)

See Wikitravel's guidelines on apartment rental listings for the criteria which must be met before a rental agency listing may be included in an article. -- Ryan • (talk) • 13:41, 9 January 2011 (EST)

Public transport[edit]

Does it really cost 230UAH for a monthly pass valid on all forms of public transport?[2] That works out at the cost of 135 journeys, which nobody is likely to make in one month. Which means that a season ticket is actually more expensive than just buying tickets, which seems very silly.

115 journeys. True. It's very silly. 21:04, 21 January 2011 (EST)

However, if you are from Western Europe or North America, you may find service in restaurants and shops difficult. What does it suppose to mean? That there are not too much english speakers in Ukraine? Say it! Anyone-fun 21:20, 21 January 2011 (EST)

Get In by Bus[edit]

The present version says that the buses arrive at the central station, which is not very central. Does this refer to the central BUS station or the central railway station? If the former, can anyone provide the location? Shep 00:51, 20 May 2011 (EDT)


As a Ukrainian originally from Lviv who has been to Kyiv many times, the part about only the migrants from the west being able to speak Ukrainian, and ethnic Russians forming 12% of the population, is simply false. Ethnic Ukrainians form at least 90%, as many of Russians went back to Russia (thank God). Russian-speaking Ukrainians are also a minority. In recent years, especially in the downtown area, it is increasingly rare to hear Russian in the streets, and rightfully so, as this is not a Russian city, it is the capital and largest city of Ukraine, although unfortunately some Russian imperialists refuse to acknowledge this. —The preceding comment was added by (talkcontribs)

Thanks for your comments. I noticed that you already made the changes in the article, so that is great. Please feel free to share more of your knowledge here on Wikitravel, we appreciate that. Kind regards, Adzas (talk) 07:14, 22 December 2013 (EST)

Current unrest[edit]

I am new to the site thus unsure how to add one, but shouldn't a travel advisory be added? The protests are getting worse by the way, and even if the place isn't a war zone (yet), there's enough unrest to at least mention it for the casual traveler that tends to read these. Bluei4corridor (talk) 21:16, 25 January 2014 (EST)

Hello Bluei4corridor and thank for your question! I added a warning as you suggested. FYI, the simplest way is to copy one from a place having already such warning ;) And if there is none, is perfectly OK to ask. PierrB (talk) 03:32, 26 January 2014 (EST)
The warning link seems to be dead ( Maybe this one is the appropriate (



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