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10 Euro is cheap ?[edit]

The article describes a hotel at 10 Euro as "cheap' - wow ! 203.63.143.122 18:25, 10 March 2007 (EST) Political corruption on all levels and rapidly changing laws to reward banditry prevail in Kazakhstan. Bring your wallet to do business.

"Just one tip, avoid everything that is very cheap: hotels, restaurants, trains, taxis, because these places attract many poor and uneducated people and you can easily get into trouble." -- I'm not happy with this expression: I don't think it's true, poor doesn't necessarily mean uneducated, and uneducated doesn't mean you'll get 'into trouble'. I'd say the opposite, if you restrict yourself to just the most posh hotels, and stick with private or luxury transport, you'll never meet the Kazakh people you came to see. We stayed in a very cheap hotel, and (besides the electricity being a bit dodgy) we were fine; given an extra breakfast, and spent ages chatting with the owner.

I agree. School education in Kazakhstan is free and mandatory. So if a child is not going to school teachers go to childs home to force him/her to study. Government gives grants to most of the students to study in University. I did my MSc in UK and government paid for each and every expense (be it a pen or a toilet paper). Even though there is a corruption in education system, if you're smart enough you can pretend for free education. And even those people who did not study in any University are wise - they know a lot about traditions, religion and stuff. In a day light it mostly safe, but at night you better be in a center of the town, just avoid dark and empty places. Almaty is mostly safe, especially in the "upper" part of it.89.218.47.122 06:36, 28 January 2010 (EST)

Borat[edit]

The movie "Borat" has apparently generated a lot of interest in making up funny fake things about Kazakhstan. Apparently Wikipedia's Kazakhstan article has been a real magnet for this kind of stuff; since it got protected, it's likely that our guide to Kazakhstan will get some attention, too. Please keep an eye out; if something sounds unlikely, it probably is. --Evan 14:17, 8 November 2006 (EST)

I will defend the from Uzbek slander against glorious nation Kazakhstan. -- Sapphire 14:31, 8 November 2006 (EST)

By boat?[edit]

Is it not possible to get to Kazakhstan by boat over the Caspian Sea from Baku, Azerbaijan, for example? -- Paul Richter 04:00, 11 January 2007 (EST)

Good point. But is it possible? Jpatokal 05:36, 11 January 2007 (EST)
I live in Kz but I had never heard that information. Uvik 13:58, 17 June 2007 (CET)
There is supposedly a ferry from Baku to Aktau Od 12:04, 14 February 2008 (CET + 2)


alchohol?[edit]

I was very suprised as it sounds like there are no problems with alchohol in Kazakstan, despite it being half muslim.--64.230.2.204 21:24, 22 December 2008 (EST)

I definitely would not expect regulations, social or legal, regarding alcohol anywhere in the FSU. The Russians didn't succeed in converting Central Asia to Orthodoxy, but they had quite some success converting Soviet Muslims to the bottle. --Peter Talk 03:49, 23 December 2008 (EST)

Regions[edit]

Draft regions map for Kazakhstan

It's always killed me to have a country the size of Western Europe lack regions, so I've scoured historical, vegetation, climactic, linguistic, topographical, sociological sources to try and come up with something passable.

The regions amalgamate provinces of Kazakhstan with the only exception on the eastern front, where I've drawn the Altai Region boundary along the old Soviet division between the now defunct Semipaliatinsk Oblast and Vostochno-Kazakhstanskaya. That way the region really only includes the (interesting) mountainous territory of the Altai. The weird discolorations at the tips are not regional boundaries--I'll fix that on the next upload.

The proposed regions I have here are:

  • Almaty Region/Tian Shan (Kazakhstan)
  • Altai (Kazakhstan)
  • Northern Kazakhstan/Kazakhstan North
  • Central Uplands (Kazakhstan)
  • Kazakh Desert/The Qyzylqum and Aral Karakum
  • Urals (Kazakhstan)/Mugodzhar Hills
  • Turan Lowlands/Caspian Basin/Turanian Desert

Thoughts? --Peter Talk 02:10, 2 February 2009 (EST)

If anyone's been following this, the map is updated as I have settled on the names I think are best. I'm fairly happy with the breakdown, but am hardly an expert on Kazakhstani travel geography. The one major difference between the former proposal and this new one is that I have merged Aktobe Province into the Central Highlands, as I don't think it would well support a separate article, and because the topography and culture is only slightly different from the rest of the region (more hilly). Since no one else has voiced interest in working on this, and because Wikitravel lacks a single Kazakhstani contributor, I'll make this live after a week has gone by without objections. It rather pains me that a country nearly the size of India, even a relatively empty one of low touristic importance, has no subregions! --Peter Talk 22:13, 6 April 2009 (EDT)
I think we should plunge forward on this, I'm not an expert either - but it looks reasonable to me. Hmmm maybe some of the Russian dudes could have some input if you proposed something similar over on ru? --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 20:18, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
Heh, tried that—they asked whether we had any knowledgeable editors over here ;) --Peter Talk 21:24, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
I have a friend who is living in Almaty right now (she's been there for a number of years) and she may have insight into how Kazakhstan is traditionally broken up (aside from the official provinces). I think Peter is correct in his initial analysis of the regions. My two cents is that while Kazakhstan is the size of Western Europe, it's population rivals that of the Netherlands so there are massive tracts of land that are essentially empty; therefore it may not be prudent to break up the regions any further down than 4 or 5 (thanks, Stefan for bringing me in on the convo!)iqbalza (zain iqbal) 16:39, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

Cities[edit]

The following two cities were taken out of the list in the country aticle (to keep it at 9 per policy). They are both redlinked and I place them here as both sound like interesting cities and mopre than worthy of an article!

  • Taldykorgan— The beautiful city on the south-east of Kazakhstan(Zhetisu region), It is worth visiting if you interested in fantastic natural view: moutains, rivers and forests. Almost like heaven.
  • Shieli— A small town located between Shymkent and Kyzylorda, belongs to the Kyzylorda region. This town is very popular for its vegetables such as huge watermelons and melons. Also, "marjan kurush" - diamond rice is the highest quality rice grown in Shieli. Moreover, this region is crowded by very kind, hospitable and nice people who will always welcome you! --Burmesedays 22:13, 24 January 2010 (EST)

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