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[edit] Votes for Deletion discussion

[edit] Makiki

My hunch was that we should redirect this one to Honolulu, but a persistent user keeps turning it into a rather well developed article. Should this be a district of Honolulu? A separate city article? --Peter ^Talk 20:26, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Sources seem to differ as to whether it's a "neighborhood" in Honolulu or a "suburb" of Honolulu. Either way, I feel fairly strongly that the article shouldn't be deleted, although it might be renamed/redirected. Let's do some research on this one; at the very least, Honolulu is probably big enough to merit some districting, and this could be a start. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 21:33, 9 December 2008 (EST)
Gentleman, I am a native of Honolulu and went to school for 13 years at Punahou (the same school that President-elect Obama attended from 1971 to 1979). That school happens to be located in Makiki which I can assure you is an old, established neighborhood--most definitely not a suburb by any stretch of the imagination. Makiki is in the heart of Honolulu, about a mile from downtown (West), two miles from Wakiki (South) and about two miles (east) of the University of Hawaii. It is certainly not a separate city! You may want to consult a map. Given that you do not live here, what you are not aware of is that Makiki is starting to generate a tremendous amount of interest and tourist traffic because of its association with Barack Obama, who was born in Kapiolani Hospital (in Makiki) and grew up a few blocks from the high school that we both graduated from. Frankly there was not a lot of interest in this neighborhood from outsiders until Obama burst on the scene. This is a very well researched piece. What's more Makiki deserves the recognition. -- Ian Brizdle

Thanks to Ian Brizdle for the clarification. Although he has clarified the situation, I think he has made a case for incorporation of this article in the Honolulu article. Something like the Columbus, Ohio breakdown may be appropriate. Merge and Redirect into and to Honolulu. 2old 13:10, 10 December 2008 (EST)

With this background, I think the course of action is clear: Rename and move to Honolulu/Makiki (which will automatically generate the redirect) and modify the root Honolulu article to point to it as a district. The rudiments of a districting scheme for Honolulu are already taking shape anyway; may as well help it along. (You fit 13 years at Punahou into the period from 1971 to 1979? I'm impressed. :-) ) -- Bill-on-the-Hill 13:23, 10 December 2008 (EST)