Help Wikitravel grow by contributing to an article! Learn how.
New users, please see Help or go to the Pub to ask questions.

Talk:Hanoi

From Wikitravel
Jump to: navigation, search

Map[edit]

A map which shows where exactly hanoi is, would be great!

For anyone who wants to give making a map a go, its not that hard or time consuming.... For more information, see here. -- Tim 09:53, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

Tintin[edit]

It's been more than ten years since I've been to Hanoi but I can't believe that Tintin Cafe has disappeared! It used to be the center of the backpacker universe but doesn't even figure on wikitravel. Is wiki missing something, or has Hanoi changed?--Wandering 11:40, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

Incorrectly labeled picture[edit]

The picture at the top right is not Ho Hoan Kiem (Hoan Kiem lake) it is a picture of Ho Bay Mau which, I'm guessing, was taken from the Nikk Hanoi Hotel (the island can be seen on the left hand side of the dark lake http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hanoi,+vietnam&ie=UTF8&ll=21.013068,105.847242&spn=0.009034,0.014462&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr. You have to scroll North slightly to make out the Nikko Hotel on the North side of the road bordering the lake). Note that at Ho Hoan Kiem (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hanoi,+vietnam&ie=UTF8&ll=21.028671,105.854173&spn=0.009033,0.014462&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr) the island is near the top of the lake and would have been on the right hand side (if there were any buildings that tall at the top of Ho Hoan Kiem. Here's hoping they do not build any such buildings as this is the old quarter of Hanoi)

PS How do you change the photo's label? (Hence this long winded discussion note)

Update: No, that is not Ho Bay Mau either. That is Thu Le Lake behind the Daewoo Hotel as viewed from the elevator area on the back side of the the Daewoo hotel. I standing at that exact view as I write this message. Here's the map link: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hanoi,+vietnam&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=21.030639,105.810195&spn=0.002824,0.003782&z=18&iwloc=addr -- User:ageitgey

An itinerary of sorts[edit]

I've moved this in from the article - not appropriate there, but could serve as the basis for a separate itinerary. Gorilla Jones 00:26, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Hanoi to Hong Kong overland


From Gia Lam station get on a bus to Dong Deng for around 60,000vnd. They should drop you near the border and you'll only have to walk 200-300km to the Vietnamese passport control. The standard procedure requires you to throw your passport above the heads of the hoards of travelers through the hole in the office window and wait until you notice an official wandering about with your passport. Good luck. Once you're stamped you can walk the short distance into China and enter the marble tiled efficiency of Chinese immigration control. When they set you free you need to get to Pingxiang 15km away. Don't accept the first taxi tout dither around as you wander through the huge stone gate and see the motobike taxis, get a bidding war started and a taxi should only cost around 30rmb a motobike no more than 20rmb. From Pingxiang get the bus to Nanning, they are more regular than the trains, this will take about 2 1/2 hours. You will arrive at Lang Dong station. From Nanning you need to travel over night to Guangzhou. If you are happy with a sleeper bus Lang dong station is the right place to be. Bear in mind the journey by bus will take 10 to 11 hours and cost about 230rmb. If you want to catch a train, which may be cheaper depending on your level of endurance, get on the number 6 bus (2rmb) to the train station (huoche zhan) it takes about 20 to 30 mins. This is the better option for even if you can't get a train you can buy a bus ticket at the Lang Dong station ticket office on Chaoyang lu near the Yin He hotel, a 2minute walk from the train station, and this way you can see some more of Nanning before catching the No 6 back to the bus station(allow 50 mins). When in Guangzhou get yourself to Guangzhou east station, use the metro it's brand new, easy to use and will only cost you about 5rmb. Once there follow the signs for the Kowloon express and for 180rmb you'll be in hong Kong in less than 1 1/2 hours. You will arrive at Hong Hum station and it's just one stop on the MRT to get to Tsim sha tsui east where you can find all the budget accommodation in one of the two "mansions" on Nathan Rd.

I've merged it into Ho Chi Minh City to Shanghai overland. Jpatokal 04:09, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Hotel Scams[edit]

I think now it's the scam descriptions (rather than the scams) that as a whole have gotten out of hand. Yes, travelers need to be wary of scams and touts, but I think most people are on the look-out anyway and have basic common sense. Moreover, positioning this scam article in a special sidebar and in such a prominent way on the Hanoi website gives the city a bad reputation. So many travelers I meet tell me that they are so afraid when coming to Hanoi, even though this is an incredibly safe and beautiful city. I don't disagree with the inclusion of a warning, but I think naming select hotels (arguably we could put all of them on the list - I doubt anyone is truly innocent who deals in the Vietnamese business community) and using polemical language may not be the way to go. Thoughts?

Agreed, it's way too long to be an infobox now. It should be stripped down into the essentials and moved into regular text in the Sleep section. Jpatokal 06:49, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

1 Hang Be[edit]

Our policy for bad shops is to ignore them, not slag them. Can you rewrite in more general form?

Avoid shopping at 1 Hang Be|I was given 3, instead of 4, embroidery pieces that I had purchased. When I went back to the shop to enquire about the missing piece, the lady at the store smirked and claimed that the amount that I had paid was not enough for 4 pieces. She also said that the little girl who had attended to me had gone home. It was not true that I had not paid enough and it was untrue that she did not know what had happened because the girl had consulted her on the price and had also given her the money during our transaction. This lady was clearly the owner of the shop. I also told her that if she thought I should have paid her more, she should have told me so instead of giving me fewer pieces. When I offered to pay her a little more money, she demanded 100000 VND more. My discussion with her led nowhere even though a Vietnamese friend tried to mediate and we left the shop. Just a word of advice--always check your purchases before you pay for the items and before you leave any shop. And avoid dishonest scammers like the shop at 1 Hang Be.

Hotels in Splurge[edit]

I removed some of the listings that did not provide descriptions or addresses, and beefed up the content in the ones that did. --MarinaK 20:47, 17 March 2009 (EDT)MarinaK.

Excess hotels[edit]

I'm whittling down the amount of hotels in the article, with prejudice against entries with incomplete data, tout-ish language, and/or un-compelling descriptions. Feel free to make a case for any of these if necessary. Gorilla Jones 20:32, 7 January 2010 (EST)

  • Astoria Hotel, 151 Hang Bong, Hoan Kiem, +84 4 938 0455 (fax: +84 4 938 0458), [1]. A brand new hotel in the center of the Old Quarter. The Astoria Hotel has 25 rooms with fully modern equipment like a/c, sattelite TV, and free internet. Breakfast is included in the room rental price. From $23.  edit
  • Friendly Hotel, Ma May St, +84 4 3926 2464, [2]. Mini hotel in the center of the Old Quarter. Air conditioned, comfortable rooms with attached bathroom, satellite TV, fridge and free wifi as well as free internet computers in reception hall. From $10.  edit
  • Hanoi Paradise Hotel, 01 Yen Thai St, Hoan Kiem, Hanoi, (84-4) 9286139. Recently opened, and offers the rare amenity of a heated indoor swimming pool.
  • Hanoi Blue Sky Hotel, 2B Hang Ga street, +84 4 9230514 (). Located in Hanoi old quarter, near Hoan Kiem lake. Very friendly staff and atmosphere, ask for Flower if she is available, she speaks more than 3 languages and can help with anything. Best deals on double rooms! Very comfortable for the price, A/C in rooms but costs $2 extra to turn it on.  edit
  • Hanoi Boutique Hotel, 28 Bat Su St, Hoan Kiem, Hanoi, (84-4) 39233609 (), [3]. checkin: 24 hours; checkout: 24 hours. Hanoi Boutique Hotel is in the heart of The Old Quarter, just a few blocks from Hoan Kiem Lake, Water Puppet Theater and alongside a thriving outdoor market. Along Bat Su street (china bowls), you will find cafes, an award-winning spa, pharmacies and various shops and stores carrying clothing, handicrafts, and other amazing finds! The hotel offers a most comfortable and glamorous accommodation in The Old quarter. All rooms are wonderfully decorated and feature fantastic facilities such as hard-wood floors, in-room private computer with wireless internet access, cable flat screen LCD TV, DVD player, tea and coffee making facilities, hair-dryer and private bathrooms with shower cabin. With friendly and knowledgeable staff who go that extra mile to ensure your stay is the best possible, and able to arrange and book the best tours of Halong Bay, Sapa, Hue, Hoi An, Nha Trang, Mui Ne Beach and Ho Chi Minh City. $25 per night double inc breakfast (and free internet).  edit
  • Hanoi Royal 2 Hotel 11 Hang Manh, Hoan Kiem, Tel +84 4 928 6479, Fax +84 4 824 6725. [4]. A two star hotel located right at the centre of Hanoi. Prices start at USD $28.
  • Lucky Eden Hotel, 35 Quan Thanh, tel: +84 4 7341 249 luckyedenhotel@gmail.com, is located near the Ho Chi Minh mausoleum, and close enough to most popular places in Hanoi. From cheap single rooms to deluxe rooms.
  • Thanh An Hotel at 46 Hang Ga Street offers rooms with attached bathroom after some haggling for 80000 dong. Owner speaks fluent French and decent English.
  • Win Hotel, 34 Hang Hanh St, Hoan Kiem, Hanoi" tel. +84(4) 38287371"[5]. Very well received guest house, close to Hoan Kiem Lake with rates from USD 20 to USD 30, has gotten some positive reviews from travelers.
  • Wing Hotel, 23 Hang Non, Old Quarter, not far from Real Darling. The Wing Hotel has clean rooms, friendly and professional staff and a book exchange. Breakfast is available. Some rooms have balconies overlooking the street. A double can cost as low as 160,000 dong, although the standard price is 192,000.
  • Hanoi Heritage Hotel, +84 4 38344727, [6]. Hanoi Heritage Hotel is in the center of Hanoi within walking distance to the Giang Vo International Exhibition Center. Hanoi Heritage Hotel is recognised as an international 3-star hotel with 68 rooms and suite. Rates start at USD 55..  edit
  • Hanoi Luxor Hotel, 59 Hang Cot, Hoan Kiem District, Hanoi, Vietnam, +84 4 39275115, [7]. Asian European cuisine in the restaurant. Sauna and massage services. 45 rooms with mini bar, LCD, A/C, hair dryers and coffee making. Rates start at USD 60.00++.  edit
  • Hanoi Pacific Hotel, 30 Cua Nam Str. Hoan Kiem Dist (5 min. from train station), +84 4 39362587 (), [8]. In the Old Quarter, the Pacific hotel is centrally located to all shopping destinations and key Hanoi attractions. Very friendly staff can help to arrange tours, tickets, etc in good English. Hot water, satellite TV, computers with internet in rooms, and a/c are among the perks in this hotel. USD 25-75.  edit
  • Hong Ngoc 1 Hotel (sales@hongngochotels.com), 34 Hang Manh St,Hoan Kiem, Hanoi, +84 4 38285053. checkin: From 13h00; checkout: 11h30. Rooms with timber and granite flooring in the Old Quarter. USD 45-125.  edit
  • Queen Travel Hotel, 65 Hang Bac-Hoan Kiem, + 84 48260860 (, fax: + 84 4 8260300), [9]. "The stylish Queen of the Old Quarter" touts its friendliness and reliability.  edit
  • Rising Dragon Hotel 61 Hang Be Street [10]. Vietnamese and American managed, next to Hoan Kiem Lake, it has new facilities in a renovated historic building of the Old Quarter. Prices start at USD 25 (all taxes included, plus breakfast, internet, and wifi).
  • Sunshine Hotel, 42 Ma May Street [11]. Clean rooms and friendly staff in the middle of the Old Quarter (around USD 30 incl. taxes & breakfast).
  • Daluva Home, 33 To Ngoc Van Street, Tay Ho District, +84 4 3718 5831 or +84 907 144 561 (), [12]. Bright and spacious, Cozy lighting with dimmers,Bedroom & Living room LCD-TVs with satellite/Sub Sound System, Work desk with Computer & Internet, Terrace with plants, Views of Westlake villas with Great walks along the lake and a kids playroom. On sit restaurant 8AM to 11PM, Fun personal tour guides, Automobile/ motorbike rental and Spa available. USD $60 Daily Breakfast included, Weekly rate $365 and Monthly Rate $1295 with reasonable meal packages available.  edit
  • Hanoi Imperial Hotel, 44 Hang Hanh Str., Hoan Kiem Dist., Hanoi (about 2 mins walk from Hoan Kiem lake), (), [13]. checkin: 14 noon; checkout: 12 noon. 3 Star luxury hotel in the Old Quarter. a business center, a restautant, Clean rooms and baths with good air-con, satellite TV, free internet WiFi and breakfast. From 75 US$.  edit
  • Sunway Hotel, 19 Pham Dinh Ho Street, Hai Ba Trung District. While it's a four star hotel, the 143 rooms in this hotel appear quite dated and lifeless. The food in the restaurant is reasonably good and they serve a breakfast buffet daily.
Well done GJ. This is something we should do a lot more of with some of the more unwieldy articles. --Burmesedays 21:19, 7 January 2010 (EST)

Little Hanoi Hostel/Hanoi Bed and Breakfast edit war[edit]

I would like to say at the outset that I have yet to visit Vietnam and have no stake in this edit war. However, until now, there had been no reason given for substituting the latter's listing for the former. We now, in the history [14] finally have an explanation: "First-hand knowledge of hotel name change (to Little Hanoi) and shoddy service, replaced with real L.H." I of course have no knowledge of the quality of service at either establishment. However, if it's true that Hanoi Bed and Breakfast changed its name to Little Hanoi Hostel, they are apparently behind schedule in changing their website [15], which is still active and still giving their (former?) address, as it has been listed on Wikitravel. Or is it that the Little Hanoi Hostel, at its current location, used to be called the Hanoi Bed and Breakfast, changed its name, and then a competitor - well, this is all confusing and requires more explanation. If the service is at the hostel/bed and breakfast is shoddy, instead of changing the listing, we should simply delete it, in keeping with Wikitravel:Avoid negative reviews. But I think we simply haven't gotten a full explanation yet. Ikan Kekek 04:45, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

ATMs[edit]

The ATM section mentions taking money out of Commonwealth banks. However, I have not found any here and the commonwealth bank site says they only have ATMs in Ho Chi Minh City. Does anyone know of Commonwealth banks ATMs in Hanoi? Otherwise, I recommend that it be edited out.

I've edited the article appropriately. --92.30.244.6 05:15, 7 August 2014 (EDT)

Organizing article[edit]

Any Hanoi expert here? Due to the size of the location we should really try to divide the article into districts and move the listings to the respective district articles. To start we added a map of the districts and we will start creating the district articles soon, but some expert advise would be great! Adzas (talk) 12:15, 6 October 2014 (EDT)

Cleaning up articles[edit]

Swept from the the Travellers' Pub:

Hi, anyone here with great knowledge about Hanoi? This article could be a great article but at the moment there are just way too many restaurant and hotel listings, who can help cleaning up this page? Adzas (talk) 06:00, 6 October 2014 (EDT)

Hanoi is huge and I guess it can be divided into districts. This could help cleaning up the main article but we need someone with a strong knowledge of the city. GiulioC (talk) 09:25, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
Looking at the districts, there are 12 urban districts and 17 rural districts, it would be a good start to divide the article into districts. We definitely need an expert to assist here though, anyone? I can start with adding a map, and we can take it from there? Adzas (talk) 10:15, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
Adding a map is a good start and we might be able to create districts pages where to move some of the listings. We definitely need an expert though. GiulioC (talk) 10:57, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
Massive it is! I can't speak of the districts, but what if we cut the listings down to a max of 15 each? I believe they're listed in the order in which they were added so we could keep the first 15 assuming that they're still in operation. Oh and with a little bit of Googling we can make sure that other travelers have enjoyed their experiences there. Comments? IBcaldera (talk) 16:47, 8 October 2014 (EDT)
Cutting down the lists definitely is a start, I will look into that, starting with removing incomplete listings. What about the districts, leave that for now? Adzas (talk) 12:46, 9 October 2014 (EDT)
Cool, good idea! I'll help with incomplete listings as well. As for districts - it is, unfortunately, for the best if we leave those as is for now. I mean unless someone comes along who knows enough about Hanoi to accurately divide it. Do you agree? IBcaldera (talk) 14:48, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
I totally agree! Adzas (talk) 17:34, 10 October 2014 (EDT)

The whole Taxi part of the article is bunk[edit]

Not sure how dated the taxi section is, but I currently live in Hanoi (20141208) and almost everything written is no longer an accurate description of travelling by taxi here. The crazy meters, being held hostage, dumping bags--all bunk. I am not saying one of these things didn't happen once, but as a person that travels exclusively by taxi here they just aren't remotely the norm.

That said, I have had a couple of really stupid drivers, but the taxi situation here is nothing like Kuala Lumpur. Here almost to a one the drivers use meters (exceptions are coming from or going to the airport), seldom speak English, are literate, and have clean cabs. The worst you should expect is to have a driver take a round-about way to pad the meter. Also, cab fares are inexpensive (6 bucks cross town-ish).

Cheers. —The preceding comment was added by 113.22.121.203 (talkcontribs)

Hello! Feel free to update the whole section, we'd really appreciate your help! GiulioC (talk) 09:38, 8 December 2014 (EST)

Variants

Actions

Destination Docents

In other languages