Talk:Hajj

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Is there profe that the penalty for those who travil on the hajj is death?? —The preceding comment was added by 81.170.113.155 (talk • contribs) .

No, because those who were killed never came back to tell us about it. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 20:48, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

haha, not funny. If it cant be found to be true, then it should not be said, do we want it to sound as though suadi arabia is some kind of barbaric country who will kill non-muslims. —The preceding comment was added by Fabrib (talk • contribs) .

Well, it's a bit hypothetical, as you'll never get even close to Mecca unless you have convincing documentation that you are a Muslim. Jpatokal 20:53, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

non-Muslims have managed it, as is stated in the article, without being killed, and its been found that some who where found where simply deported from the countryFabio

I think Fabio's right on this one, and I've edited the article accordingly. The biggest risk of discovery would be pissed-off locals, not the Saudi authorities (although they're not known for their gentle touch either...). Jpatokal 21:03, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

Thanks for the support Jpatokal, fabio

I support the current solution, but I'm curious to know if there is a law imposing the supposed punishment or at least one very similar to trauma. I think I'll give the Ministry of Hajj a call within the next couple of days and ask about that. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 21:25, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

I lived in Saudi in the 80s, and the general belief among expats at the time was that a non-Muslim visiting Mecca or Medina risked the death penalty. I do not know if this was accurate, and never heard of anyone actually being caught. Certainly the death penalty was in use, and foreigners were subject to some heavy Saudi penalties — one guy I know of got a public flogging for smuggling large amounts of booze. Pashley 11:26, 2 August 2006 (EDT)