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[edit] Deletions by anonymous editor 68.212.161.142 on 9 Jan 2006?

On 23:06, 9 Jan 2006, anonymous editor 68.212.161.142 deleted several sections of the Guatemala page:

  • When to go
  • Get in
  • Get around
  • Talk
  • Buy
  • Eat

I agree that a lot of the content there could stand to be improved, but I'm not comfortable with deleting all the existing content and not providing any improved replacement. I'm reverting these deletions. Anonymous editor, I welcome your participation, but I'd appreciate it if you post a note here telling what content you'd like to provide to move this article forward. JimDeLaHunt 02:37, 10 Jan 2006 (EST)

I rolled it back. Nice catch! --Evan 02:39, 10 Jan 2006 (EST)

[edit] Guatemala#Tour operators

Anyone object to the deletion of this section and all its contents?

[edit] Testing Quickbar

Should the sandbox type testing or the quickbar be a part of this article? Or should it be deleted or moved elsewhere? - Aditya Kabir 03:17, 18 November 2006 (EST)

Can you clarify what you're referring to? The quickbar in this article looks fine to me. -- Ryan 03:19, 18 November 2006 (EST)

[edit] Volcanoes?

Are we really going to do travel guides for each of these volcanoes? I think for ones that you actually camp on, etc., it would make sense, but otherwise they should be covered in the guides for nearby towns or regions. --evanp 17:13, 14 January 2007 (EST)

[edit] Murder rate

Should the article say that travel is strongly discouraged? What is that based on? The US State Department doesn't put Guatemala on it's travel warning list, neither does the UK, Canada or Australia. Should there be a report on the murder rate in the Stay Safe section?

On 18:50, 2007 January 15, 70.56.84.31 added the following statement to the Stay Safe section:

The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights reported last year that Guatemala had the highest murder rate in all of Latin America, with 70 homicides per 100,000 population. In Guatemala the murder rate is 20 times higher than in Seattle, and thirteen and a half times higher than the greater New York area.

Later that day, Nskinn revised the text slightly and added references. Shortly after that, Cjensen removed the references with the comment, "Remove references. Thanks for them -- but we don't need them unless it's on a talk page to resolve a dispute."

On 18:53, 2007 February 10), Rfmarves deleted the revised text. Thus we have an implicit dispute about this claim.

The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (wikipedia) has a web site, http://www.cidh.org/ . In a quick search, I wasn't able to see a report posted there which validates the 70 homicides per 100,000 statistic quoted in the ispnews.net article.

I'm willing to believe that there's a high homicide rate in Guatemala, but I'm not sure what's appropriate to say about it in a travel guide. Thus I'm not changing anything now. I'm just noting the issue. JimDeLaHunt 14:50, 11 February 2007 (EST)

[edit] Feedback: this article doesn't give newcomer the right level of guidance

Some feedback from a friend who knows Guatemala, and was looking for a URL for a Guatemala first-time vistor to read: this Guatemala article wasn't useful. I think the comment was that it lacked an overview and list of top itineraries. The beginning of the article and the "See" and "Suggested Itineraries" sections are natural places to put these. I think the problem is that there is too much detail, and not enough overview content supplied yet. Yes, I'll add my contributions. But I wanted to post this feedback in the hopes of encouraging others too. JimDeLaHunt 15:33, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, Central America is one of the lesser-developed areas of Wikitravel, so we can definitely use your help prioritizing and organizing the information we have, and adding to it. - Todd VerBeek 16:05, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] minor delete

Took out the line in the Stay Safe section about being murdered because of taking a photo. While taking photos is very culturally insensitive and causes much fear, a statement as extreem as the one that was there needs a citation. The child slave trade (often for sex) is alive and well in Guatemala so the fear is warented but I have not seen a documented case of a pre-emptive murder because of a photo. (During the civil war there was a case of a mob killing a woman suspected of kidnaping but 20 years ago in Guatemala was a different tale.)

[edit] Regions

As in various central and south american countries the region system is a mixture of too many department pages that are almost empty and not widely used region pages. I d be willing to sort all that but but I've never been to Guatemala. The current region system on the main page appears fine to me but i d need confirmation from someone more knowledgeable.

Here s a map and a list of the departments of the country :
  1. Alta Verapaz
  2. Baja Verapaz
  3. Chimaltenango
  4. Chiquimula
  5. Petén
  6. El Progreso
  7. El Quiché
  8. Escuintla
  9. Guatemala
  10. Huehuetenango
  11. Izabal
  12. Jalapa
  13. Jutiapa
  14. Quetzaltenango
  15. Retalhuleu
  16. Sacatepéquez
  17. San Marcos
  18. Santa Rosa
  19. Sololá
  20. Suchitepéquez
  21. Totonicapán
  22. Zacapa

I d need help from someone who knows Guatemala as to which department fit in which region before starting the reorganization. Thanks for input. Rafcha 17:51, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

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