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[edit] Wikitravel:Tone

This article currently has a tone approaching borderline psychotic. The article disagrees with itself, shouts, rants, & raves. I don't know anything about this region, so if I tried to clean this up myself, I'd just wind up removing content without adding anything in its place. --Peter ^Talk 23:50, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

Don't worry. This sort of stuff -- most commonly rambling rants about safety ("NEVER go to the beach wearing expensive jewelry!!!") that could apply to almost anywhere the globe, and are typically the writer's way of saying, "Dude, I was just there, and let me tell you what happened, you're not gonna believe this..." -- may be terminated with extreme prejudice. -- Paul Richter 00:38, 6 September 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Knocking this region and its articles into shape

It is coming along.

Bromo-Tengger-Semeru National Park is not far short of guide. I have cleared up the style problems with Surabaya and that article is as good as it will get I think - a huge city but not a great destination. Banyuwangi and Baluran National Park are getting there. Malang will be easy. Any help from users familiar with the region, particularly the minor cities, would be greatly appreciated. --Burmesedays 07:11, 9 October 2009 (EDT)

Malang and Batu now quite well developed.--Burmesedays 06:40, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

Banyuwangi now usable. --Burmesedays 22:16, 11 October 2009 (EDT)

Madura now a strong usable article. --Burmesedays 04:21, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

and Sukamade now usable. Fantastic place by the way - a wonderous experience and a real adventure. --Burmesedays 10:46, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

Jember now usable. --Burmesedays 00:10, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

To recap:

• Bromo-Tengger-Semeru National Park is now a guide.
• Madura, Malang, Batu and Surabaya are not far short of guide.
• Sukamade and Banyuwangi are quite well developed usable articles.
• Jember is a weak usable article.

That leaves:

• Baluran National Park not hard, I have been there fairly recently.
• Kediri, Bojonegoro, Madiun, Blitar, Pacitan, Trenggalek, Probolinggo. Some of these are merge candidates. I will definitely merge and re-direct Sukapura to Bromo-Tengger-Semeru National Park. --Burmesedays 00:10, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Amazing work once again. Not sure many (any?) Wikitravellers know the area nearly as well as you do... Jpatokal 09:39, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Thanks Jani. It has become a bit of a struggle now and upon reflection I do not think I can finish the region. This is a bit disappointing but I really do not know some of the remaining places well enough. It was ambitious anyway I realise for such a relatively poorly known region amongst travellers. Maybe someone will come out the woodwork here who knows well the likes of Madiun and Kediri. Naturally, I started with the destinations I know quite well (Malang, Banyuwangi, Madura and the National Parks or nearby). One thing I really wanted to do is draw attention in WT to Madura before it loses its OtBP status..... star hotel groups are moving in now that the bridge is finally open. --Burmesedays 09:54, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Baluran National Park and Blitar are now usable.--Burmesedays 01:36, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

That leaves four destination articles in the region which need developing by somebody other than me - I do not know enough about Kediri, Madiun, Pacitan and Trenggalek. Hopefully someone will find this regional article and tackle those 4.--Burmesedays 01:36, 20 October 2009 (EDT)