Talk:Bosnia and Herzegovina

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English Spelling Irrelevancies[edit]

For some reason, Americans have been making irrelevant spelling changes to this page. If someone contributes "flavour" as opposed to "flavor" - it is not wrong, they're just using English/Canadian/Australian spelling as opposed to US spelling. Don't bother wasting time making irrelevant changes like that as both "flavor" and "flavour" are correct!

Regions[edit]

The B&H Tourism Assocation presents the country as five regions which (refreshingly) bear no resemblance to the political gerrymander of Srpska vs. Federation-B&H, but are instead fairly easy to draw on a map and seem travel-friendly:

  • Herzegovina
  • Sarajevo Region
  • Central Bosnia
  • Northwest Bosnia
  • Northeast Bosnia

Any objections to taking the geographic route rather than the political/ethnic route? - Todd VerBeek 16:16, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

You could, but it is not clear to me from the article whether it is safe and unproblematic to travel from one entity to the other. Maybe you could also specify that. 88.117.112.28 06:37, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

Bosnia region proposal.png
OK, so I stuck my hands way down the hornets nest, and tried to come up with something neutral. This proposal overlooks the Federation and Republic boundaries completely (on purpose, Per Todds comments above), and instead focuses on a mix of 3 indisputable historic regions (Bosanska Krajna, Herzegovina & Posavina) and lends the rest of the division from the official tourism agency [1]. I'd really like some comments - before implementing this, and will leave it up for 2 weeks. As for the anonymous comment above, the Inter-Entity_Boundary_Line is unguarded and crossing it pretty much resembles crossing a US state line.
Se the proposed division on the right hand image ->
--Stefan (sertmann) Talk 14:07, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
It is unproblematic to go from one part to the other, as long as you keep to roads and paths (due to the risks of mines). But somehow I think its a bit too idealistic a division for wikitravel - (which in a sense is also political), as it pretends theres no such thing as political issues? Also, what do you want to achieve with a division in parts? There are not many big articles in Bosnia, and it doesnt seem to make a lot of sense to make further subdivisions, whereas many towns are actually quite empty? -- Eiland 10:00, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
Well seeing that the Bosnian tourist organisation has gone the same route, I'd like if you could expand your thoughts on the Republic/Federation division a little? Also while I know there is not much content, we also need to have a sensible hierarchy, that would work as coverage grows - I Don't think 5 regions are too much. What if we merged Posavina and Northern Bosnia into one region (and maybe less so Sarajevo & central)? I'm willing to take sensible advice here, I've only been in Bihac and Sarajevo (and the southern parts of Herzegovina before the war). --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 10:41, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
Its in the interest of the BiH tourism agency to play down anything related to nationalistic tensions or other scary things, but that doesnt mean there arent any. But I agree to have the RS/Federation division is abit too much going with the flow of silly politicians. But this is a non-dicussion as long as there is no content - and i dont see it growing any time soon, so i wont spend too much time on it. I am going to Mostar for the weekend :) -- Eiland 11:28, 9 April 2009 (EDT)


bump, any other thoughts on this? --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 15:15, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

Bump again. This will soon be the last country left in Europe without a WT map or a region structure. Thoughts on Stefan's proposed scheme anyone? --Burmesedays 02:54, 21 April 2010 (EDT)

Given the facts that the travel between the entities can be done unimpededly, distinct banknotes of two entities are legal tender anywhere in the country, and language is not a barrier (Serbian, Croatian, and Bosnian are practically the same, though they use Cyrillic in Serbian part I guess), I don't see any reason not to implement Stefan's proposal; a hierarchy based on entities with such turning and twisting boundaries would be hard indeed. However, having a "North" just south of another region seems a little problematic to me, may "Northeast" be a better naming? – Vidimian 05:20, 21 April 2010 (EDT)

In fact, now I come to think of it, the B&H Tourism Association is the touristic agency of the Federation of BiH[2]. See the infobox I just made [3]. In principle, wikitravel using this division can be interpreted as support for the unifying aspirations of the Federation; and against the strict entity border maintenance aspirations of the RS. But I wont push this unfair matter of fact :) -- Eiland 11:28, 22 January 2011 (EST)

Hi. That sounds like an interesting trivia. However, when added to the "regions" section as an infobox, it pushes the map below in a rather ugly way, at least in my small size screen (10.1", I guess?). So, it might be better if we move it to somewhere more suitable at "understand", perhaps in a section in which tourism in the country is discussed and perhaps as prose, rather than in an infobox. – Vidimian 17:24, 25 January 2011 (EST)
I agree it distorts the layout somewhat, so maybe its better to move it to understand. I prefer it the infobox, because it is not so important for tourists ("here you find a hotel") but it illustrates a bit the dynamics of the the current political situation. -- Eiland 06:13, 27 January 2011 (EST)
It looks good now, especially as it aligns (at least on my screen) with the "constitution" section, where the political entities are discussed. I've removed the "Did you know" part from its header, though, as that looks kind of cliché to start an infobox with such an expression. – Vidimian 06:51, 27 January 2011 (EST)

FOOD[edit]

Could you please make sure you SPELL things correctly if you plan to make edits to the FOOD section? I think this was a beautifully-written article and small edits, likely by the locals, are really messing up the spelling. If you plan to add something, by all means do, but go to a website like www.dictionary.com and make sure that the word you intend to add means what you *think* it means and assure that the spelling is correct!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.232.195.232 (talkcontribs)

Getting in - by car[edit]

Could somebody tell me please the border crossing from Serbia into Bosnia and from Bosnia into Montenegro, and whether they are open for everybody or access is limited merely to locals. Also, if I enter into Bosnia by car, is there a fee/insurance prime or whatever else to pay? Somebody in possession of all this information could also put it into the article or at least a link to it. Thanks in advance, Ferike333 (talk) 17:46, 3 June 2013 (EDT)