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Hungary is not part of the Balkans. Yann 18:25, 22 Mar 2004 (EST)

I agree, the exact meaning of the word Balkan is always in dispute, but including Hungary is really pushing the limits so I'm going to remove it. Aburda 11:37, 4 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Greece is mentioned later and I thought was part of the balkans but is not on the list. Okay I added it but the map is still wrong.

We've grouped Greece with Cyprus and Turkey (see here)- any comments? then please direct them over at Talk:Europe/Hierarchy, but remember Europe is so complex it's darn hard making everyone happy. Also the regions on Bosnia Talk:Bosnia and Herzegovina could use a comment if anyone would be so inclined *wink* --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 18:56, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

Slovenia is absolutely part of the Balkans. The Balkan line goes straight through Ljubljana. Slovenes don't like the ˝Balkan˝ connotations of war and political instability, (and worst of all, poverty) but it is intellectually dishonest for them to claim that they aren't a Balkan country. One trip to the police station is enough proof to show otherwise. Slovenia is a police state under the thinnest veneer of democracy. The police have absolute power, they are the judge, jury, executioner, and appellate judges of minor cases (which can get a foreigner deported). Human rights are not respected here, though the government goes through the motions. They keep trying to fire their own human rights ombudsman. How Balkan is that? ¨89.212.31.129 12:17, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

again - changes in the hierarchy should go in Talk:Europe/Hierarchy --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 17:25, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

Croatia[edit]

How can Croatia be part of Balkans????

Do you know where mountain Balkan is??? And river Sava???? Croatia was part of Austro - Hungarian Monarchy from 16 century until 1918. We are 90% Catholics. What we have in common with other countries of former Yugoslavia???? We were together just for 50 years.

(Moved here on behalf of User_talk:93.141.23.171) Jtesla16 11:33, 14 June 2009 (EDT)


Croats ~ Serbs. 60% of Croats (Jekavian Stokavian speakers) = Serbs. Have a good sleep.... Tesla ??? You know the religion of Nikola Tesla?


The article says: "however, the Greeks, like the Slovenes and Croats, also distance themselves from the Balkans"

Based on what research? Any reference? In the same way, someone could add that "the Germans do not consider their country part of Europe and prefer to be called Asians". Where is that mentioned? What study says so? If that is just an opinion of yours, remove it. I am Greek and I am more Balkanian than European. Did you count my opinion in your "conclusion"? If you are to publish such rubbish, better delete the whole article alltogether... ~~A Macedonian, therefor, a Greek~~

Kosovo[edit]

Kosovo not being here seems like a political statement to me. It's a country. Please add it to this page, I do not have the wiki knowalde to do it.

Ten cities?[edit]

An editor added Pristina the capital of Kosovo, to the list of Cities. I reverted it per our strict nine-city rule, but I think we may have a strong case for an exception here. We have ten countries in this continental section, and nine of them have their capitals listed under "Cities". I daresay we would need a really good reason to exclude Pristina and only Pristina, as long as we're going with capital cities all the way down. LtPowers 19:37, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

Nine is the max, so one has to be omitted. I think Pristina makes a good one for leaving out. --globe-trotter 20:17, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
Yes, but you see, I'm suggesting we make an exception here. LtPowers 21:56, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
I think there is a very good case for making an exception here, and listing 10.--Burmesedays 22:24, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
If we're starting with exceptions, then I think we're opening a can of worms for many other regions. Europe, the United Kingdom and the United States for instance. --globe-trotter 08:07, 22 August 2011 (EDT)
I think it's a good case for an exception, and clearly different from Europe, the US, or the US in that there are 10 countries (which is already somewhat of an exception to the 7+-2 rule) in this region and it seems odd to not feature one city from each. texugo 08:33, 22 August 2011 (EDT)
I agree, making an exception here seems perfectly justified and besides, it's a lot less trouble than choosing which one to exclude and making cases for that choice. I'm not very worried about opening a can of worms. Exceptions prove the rule, they say, and if others can make an equally convincing case for another region, I'm quite fine with considering it there too. Justme 08:43, 22 August 2011 (EDT)
I wouldn't even be suggesting it if we didn't have nine out of ten capital cities listed already. If one of the cities wasn't a capital, or one of the countries had two cities listed, or anything else, I'd let it be. But it looks very strange to have nine capital cities and not the tenth. If we change the wording to specifically say "These are the capitals of the ten Balkan countries," I think we'll be fine precedent-wise. LtPowers 10:46, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

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